In diesem Thema wird dieser Beitrag diskutiert: Neue GM Customer specific requirements September 2007

Guten Tag,

hat jemand schon die 2. Revision der CQI-9 gesehen und kann zu den Änderungen Auskunft geben?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
aus dem Naheland

Sonntag

Hallo,

hier habe ich mal die offzielle Änderungshistorie online gestellt.

Zum Inhalt selber kann ich leider nichts sagen, da wir (zum Glück) davon nicht betroffen sind...

Gruß, Roland

Hallo,

kennt jemand die CQI-11 und 12???

Gruß

Tamara

Kennen tue ich diese Forderungen noch nicht, aber bis Januar 2008 sollen wir diese laut der neuen GM KF umsetzen.

Ich warte noch auf Infos unserer amerikanischen Kollegen.
Nach den Herbstferien hoffe ich mehr zu wissen.

Kennt hier jemand den Unterschied zwischen "PLATING" & "COATING"?

Gruss
MATZ

Hallo,

im Forum "elsmar cove quality" habe ich hierzu folgende Hinweise gefunden ( alles in englisch): --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We took a quick glance at the changes over the weekend and found the following (not necessary a complete list).

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Auditor:
Auditor requirements have increased beyond being a qualified QMS internal auditor. In addition, five years of heat treat experience and/or metallurgical training is required, along with Core Tools familiarity. Team leader (if more
than one person on team) must be qualified QMS internal auditor.

Sections of CQI-9 standard have been renumbered. Introduction was Section 1 of 1st Edition.

TERMINOLOGY: In addition to “shall” being a requirement and “such as” used for guidance, the 2nd Edition adds “should” to be interpreted as a recommendation.

Changes in 2nd Edition are not explicitly identified in the standard.

1 (new) Scope

Reference documents have been added: AMS 2750D (Pyrometry), SAE J415 (Definition of Heat Treat Terms), and SAE J684 (Surface Hardness Testing with Files)

2 - Heat Treat Assessment
Action requirement added for “Not Satisfactory” finding, including containment of all non-conforming product.
All corrective action is to be completed within 90 days of completion of audit.

3 – Special Process: Heat Treat Assessment (Heat Treat Survey Sections 1-3)
Adds Line 16 to Cover Sheet for number of “Needs Immediate Attention” findings.
Adds Line 17 to Cover Sheet for number of “Fail” findings (from Job Audit)
Automotive specific references, such as APQP and PPAP, have been modified to “advanced quality planning” and “part approval.”

New section (two pages) added for General Notes relative to AMS 2750D (Pyrometry) issues. Allowable exceptions to pyrometry standard are noted.
Specific wording changes are made to paragraphs 2.5, 2.6, 3.4, and 3.7 which eliminate non-technical terms such as “green material” and add specific references to AMS 2750D.

Section 4 – Job Audit (Heat Treat Survey Section 4)
Automotive specific references have been changed.
Paragraphs 4.19 and 4.20 changed to reference identification and labeling of product.

Appendix – Process Tables

Table D Induction Hardening – Increase frequencies of part inspections.

Table E added to cover other processes.

Glossary – a number of terms have been added or deleted.

Hallo,

im Forum "elsmar cove quality" habe ich hierzu folgende Hinweise gefunden ( alles in englisch): --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We took a quick glance at the changes over the weekend and found the following (not necessary a complete list).

................
Auditor:
Auditor requirements have increased beyond being a qualified QMS internal auditor. In addition, five years of heat treat experience and/or metallurgical training is required, along with Core Tools familiarity. Team leader (if more
than one person on team) must be qualified QMS internal auditor.

Sections of CQI-9 standard have been renumbered. Introduction was Section 1 of 1st Edition.

TERMINOLOGY: In addition to “shall” being a requirement and “such as” used for guidance, the 2nd Edition adds “should” to be interpreted as a recommendation.

Changes in 2nd Edition are not explicitly identified in the standard.

1 (new) Scope

Reference documents have been added: AMS 2750D (Pyrometry), SAE J415 (Definition of Heat Treat Terms), and SAE J684 (Surface Hardness Testing with Files)

2 - Heat Treat Assessment
Action requirement added for “Not Satisfactory” finding, including containment of all non-conforming product.
All corrective action is to be completed within 90 days of completion of audit.

3 – Special Process: Heat Treat Assessment (Heat Treat Survey Sections 1-3)
Adds Line 16 to Cover Sheet for number of “Needs Immediate Attention” findings.
Adds Line 17 to Cover Sheet for number of “Fail” findings (from Job Audit)
Automotive specific references, such as APQP and PPAP, have been modified to “advanced quality planning” and “part approval.”

New section (two pages) added for General Notes relative to AMS 2750D (Pyrometry) issues. Allowable exceptions to pyrometry standard are noted.
Specific wording changes are made to paragraphs 2.5, 2.6, 3.4, and 3.7 which eliminate non-technical terms such as “green material” and add specific references to AMS 2750D.

Section 4 – Job Audit (Heat Treat Survey Section 4)
Automotive specific references have been changed.
Paragraphs 4.19 and 4.20 changed to reference identification and labeling of product.

Appendix – Process Tables

Table D Induction Hardening – Increase frequencies of part inspections.

Table E added to cover other processes.

Glossary – a number of terms have been added or deleted.

Hallo,

der Kommentar aus dem Elsmar Cove bezieht sich auf die Änderungen der CQI-9 !!!!!! nicht der GM Requirements!!

GM hat "nur" die CQI-9 2 Ed und die CQI-11 und 12 ergänzt.

Gruß

Tamara

Danke für Ihre schnellen Reaktionen und hilfreichen Hinweise.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Sonntag

Hallo Matz,
"plating" beschreibt das metallische Beschichten (üblicherweise galvanisieren), "coating" eher ein Beschichten im Sinne von "streichen/anstreichen", "tauchlackieren" etc. ...
MfG
Andreas

Bärliner schrieb:


Morgen Bärliner,

danke für deine Antwort.

Ich habe jetzt etwas recherchiert und versucht unsere Verfahren zuzuordnen.

Zur Zeit würde ich folgende Zuordnung vornehmen.

Plating: Verchromen im Bad, Brünieren
Coating: PVD, DLC, Phosphatieren

Hat jemand eine andere Meinung oder kann die Richtigkeit bestätigen?



LG
Matz

P.S. fällt es nur mir/uns so schwer da durchzublicken?